Tapering Methadone

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Re: Tapering Methadone

Postby PrettyInPain » Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:51 am

Thought I'd share this with you guys, I've been up half the night and have to work soon but... The feels... The feels.

http://youtu.be/UJyZW2IMr0w
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Re: Tapering Methadone

Postby cheeps » Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:13 am

It's snowing here and my internet is pissed....too many peeps on my line! I'll have to load it later!
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Re: Tapering Methadone

Postby syd » Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:08 pm

Hi PIP.

If you just let nature take it's course, you should begin to feel better at about 5 months. I didnt have that kind of patience.

First off, methadone is metabolized in the liver. Methadone also has an affinity for fat cells. It tends to get stored there for a VERY LONG time. Add to that, most of us gained tremendous weight on MMT. More fat cells. Being a woman= even more fat cells. Obesity adds fat to the liver. This is why that dose we took months ago is still hanging on and drawing this out for eons.

You can speed up this process by eating foods that cleanse the liver. Some of the foods are, Leafy greens, Broccoli, Beets are the best, Garlic, Sweet potatoes. If you have a juicer or juice bar, excellent. Stay away from foods high in fats, like most red meats.

Another thing people overlook is water. Drink water with a pH of no less than 7.0 (distilled). But, waters with a pH of 8 or more, are much more easily assimilated by our bodies. And last but not least...SWEAT that shit out. Now I HATE exercise but love to dance. I know you like music. No weepy, melancholy shit either. Put something on that makes you move you ass. Oh, and NEVER use antiperspirants. We were designed to sweat. It's how our bodies remover foreign/toxic substances.

Brain games will speed up the return of cognitive skills.

IMO, antidepressants will only set you back, as far as brain healing. You may find one that gives you temp. relief, but in the long run, it will keep the brain from regulating on it's own...which it will do...in time.

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Re: Tapering Methadone

Postby Dee » Mon Mar 16, 2015 9:52 am

Hey Pip... Was just thinking about Ya and wondering how you're doing?
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Re: Tapering Methadone

Postby PrettyInPain » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:42 pm

Hey guys. Sorry for the lack of updates. I've been thinking about you all and keep meaning to post. But it's all bad, y'all. I have been in chronic pain of unknown origin for months. Thought it was dental related, have seen about 7 dentists and specialists with no answers, and now have to get into a regular doc just to get a referral to a neurologist. Going to start neurotin (sp? I think it's called Gabapentin) soon to see if it helps. Been in constant agony with no relief. I haven't missed any work besides a couple hours here or there for doc appointments. Going to the regular doc soon to get the neurologist referral. I have hereditary nerve damage issues. I'm hoping it's something that can be cured. Many tears have been shed. Lots of anxiety and depression. Sorry for not directly replying to any of your posts. This has been the only thing I can think about and it's been a major burden in my life. I hope they can help me somehow. I keep giving shoved out the door after spending hundreds of dollars just to get an "I don't know, you look fine to us." Anyone know anything about neurological pain? My best guess is Trigeminal neuralgia. I guess we'll see. I'll keep you updated and reply to you guys soon. Sorry again for not updating and replying. Love you guys.
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Winter's gonna end, I'm gonna clean these veins again, so close to dying that I finally can start living.
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So collapse. 
Crumble.
 This is not your destruction. 

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Re: Tapering Methadone

Postby cheeps » Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:23 pm

well Pip, not sure what you are going thru...THAT SUUUCKS!!!!!! When I googled to see exactly what it was, I found this site to have a lot of patient comments. Nothing like experience to educate and validate....so I posted it here.

I'm so sorry you feel like SHIT!!! :gaah: :punchballs: :banghead: :(

http://www.medicinenet.com/trigeminal_n ... rticle.htm
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Re: Tapering Methadone

Postby PrettyInPain » Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:40 pm

Yeah, i guess I've always been the type of person that just self medicates (duh lol) or just waits until the pain or bad shit goes away. So to be told by so many dentists, specialists, and now my doc that they cannot find anything wrong is both infuriating and honestly the most depressing thing ever. I got like 10 vials of blood taken last week because my insurance refuses to pay for a neurologist unless all the fucking bases are covered. I am so tired of all the time and money this has cost me to get absolutely no relief. I am in pain literally 24 hours a day and it's making my depresion and insomnia worse. I am just so tired of the bad things. Health problems (physical and psychological) job problems, money problems,and a brand spanking new lawsuit because some absolute bitch ran into my bf with her car, lied about it, and got a lawyer involved by saying HE hit HER. I swear I'm trying to be strong, but when is enough enough? I'm crying just writing this because my pain level is through the roof and I am SO tired of bad shit always happening. I really am not trying to be negative, but it's hard not to when the good things in life seem like mirages. I have always tried to be a good person, but I feel like I'm on an earthly damnation for being fucking Adolf Hitler. Dramatic yeah but fuck if I don't feel helpless. I am so lost you guys.
I finally jumped!!! First day methadone-free: 12/16/14
Winter's gonna end, I'm gonna clean these veins again, so close to dying that I finally can start living.
For a star to be born, there is one thing that must happen: a gaseous nebula must collapse. 

So collapse. 
Crumble.
 This is not your destruction. 

This is your birth.
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Re: Tapering Methadone

Postby cheeps » Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:42 am

Well baby....I get it; I truly do. There were a few years back when everything went wrong in my life. Two deaths, a divorce, two major surgeries, undiagnosed sleep apnea, raising a 15 year old teen boy whose father didn't try to see him in the first two years post divorce....EVERYTHING!!! Right after that I went to detox for the methadone and when I got back we had a major MOUSE invasion because they cut down the cornfields around the house. Mouse SHIT everywhere, my poor son, 16 years old, stayed by himself for the 4 weeks I was gone....then got a parent that was limp as a dishrag...... :gaah: :gaah:


PAIN SUCKS Pip!!! It seems like the whole world is shit! Right now my back is killing me but never never again will I touch anything methadone.

I'm just glad you have some insurance....I'm with a HMO and I've been doing the hoop dancing too....just to get a referral to PT!

Hang in there girl....I swear it will get better but it does make you want to scream at the world before you go rob the bank! :kiss: :banghead: 8-)
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Re: Tapering Methadone

Postby Ren » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:52 pm

Been there done that, ended up on 140 of mdone. Realize that pain killers make pain worse, they sensitize you more to pain in the long run. I had/have the same thing. Describe you symptoms even ones you think arent relavent. I went to neurologists, tmj, dentists, 14 years later still no diagnosis, however I do think it has to do with lyme disease, lupus, or fibromyalgia, my pain is one one side of my head, radiates to ear, eye, sinuses and neck. Believe me I know, you may be making it worse, its like we cant accept good things, we stop ourselves mid smile, "ill smile when im pain free, this isnt a real smile".

If this was trigeminal youd not be able to type, its like molten lead on your face, its triggered with touch. Did you have teeth pulled? Do you have deer ticks in your area?

You should take tagamat generic cimetadine, it raises meth plasma levels and will keep you more stable till the next dose. I am a pussy with wd and I was cutting 10 or 20 mg a month with 0 wd. Maybe sleep was hard but np, dont obsess, most of your symptoms could actually be your anxiety. A good way to tell if its wd is if you got leaky faucet nose, that and constant yawning. If its anxiety try phenibut, 5 htp, gaba, levadopa, valerian, breathing excercises etc.
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Re: Tapering Methadone

Postby PrettyInPain » Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:31 pm

You're right on Ren, it's definitely not TN because it is not that type of pain. But it is consistent and never ending. I had 2 root canals last year, and nerve damage can manifest months or years after dental treatment. I found this article about it: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16967670/
I have been in chronic pain from this since January. I am on a waiting list to make appointments with a neurologist and pain management specialist. It has increased my anxiety and depression tenfold. My psychiatrist has me on anti anxiety meds, which I do not take daily. I am not on methadone anymore and would not go back on it if someone had a gun to my head. Docs are trying seizure meds off label to try to help the pain. So far, no luck. I have never had chronic pain before this, but my quality of life is very awful because of this mess.

On a positive note, i am 4 months methadone free today! :MrT: :MrT: :cheers: :banana: :thumbup:

What have you guys and gals been up to?
I finally jumped!!! First day methadone-free: 12/16/14
Winter's gonna end, I'm gonna clean these veins again, so close to dying that I finally can start living.
For a star to be born, there is one thing that must happen: a gaseous nebula must collapse. 

So collapse. 
Crumble.
 This is not your destruction. 

This is your birth.
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Re: Tapering Methadone

Postby cheeps » Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:07 pm

PrettyInPain wrote: I am not on methadone anymore and would not go back on it if someone had a gun to my head. Docs are trying seizure meds off label to try to help the pain. So far, no luck. I have never had chronic pain before this, but my quality of life is very awful because of this mess.

On a positive note, i am 4 months methadone free today! :MrT: :MrT: :cheers: :banana: :thumbup:

What have you guys and gals been up to?



What about some Lyrica?

I've been working some....


FOUR FUCKING MONTHS!!!!

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:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

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Re: Tapering Methadone

Postby Dee » Sat May 09, 2015 1:18 pm

Congrats on 4 months girl!! So sorry you're dealing with so much shit as far as pain goes...
I'm 18 days away from being a YEAR free and clear of methadone! Can't believe it's been a year already.
Can't talk long... In the middle of packing for Cancun. A little vaca my husband & I are taking for our anniversary with some friends.
But, wanted to pop in to see how you're doing and congratulate you on 4 months. Hang in there... Hopefully they'll find a med and/or proper diagnosis for you soon.
Hugs... Dee
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Re: Tapering Methadone

Postby Sindysun » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:32 am

Hi PIP

Did you find out what was causing your pain yet? I hope so. Congratulations on your close to 6 mos off methadone now!
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Re: Tapering Methadone

Postby subster58 » Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:30 pm

PIP. congrats on your time off methadone. So very sorry you are in so much pain. It fucking sucks. I've been on neurotin for 10 years for depression. They use it for several things. Don't know if it helps, but I'm listening to my shrink and taking the anti-depress meds as ordered. Know the drill about going to doctors. Pain in the ass. I'm hoping you can find at least one that can help you. My heart goes out to you.
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