Coming off subutex day 2

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Coming off subutex day 2

Postby subuser » Wed May 01, 2013 12:35 pm

HI Everyone,
I can't tell you how happy I was to find this site. It has been amazing to read everyone's posts and know I am definitely not the only one out there going through this shit. My story is sounds like most. Started with vicodin, progressed to oxy, eventually moved to heroine. I thought my life was over as I would never be able to get off the cycle of using for fear of the w/d. Then I found subutex. I thought it was a miracle drug. If only I would have known then what I know now. It sounds like a rapid detox of heroine is a million times better than the slow agonizing w/d from subutex. But here I am ready to face the fucking demons and be done with this shit. I am on day two and its not that bad, but what I have read from everyone day 2 is a cake walk for what is about to come and I'm terrified. I am jumping off from anywhere from 4 to 8 mg a day. The last time I took any was a 2 mg dose at 4 in the morning 2 days ago so I'm expecting tomorrow to be hell. Today is just a lot of restlessness. My legs hurt, my skin tingles every now and then and sleeping comes in waves. I did go to a doctor to get Clonidine and valum to help with the process. The vallum definitely helps with the sleeping but I think I was taking it a little too liberally and I'm terrified of getting hooked on another pill. I'm going to try and it for when I really need it. I'm just posting for advice, encouragement, anything that can and will help me through this. I must say I'm a pretty big baby when it comes to pain and I'm not looking forward to the next couple of months. Hopefully I have the strength to make it through this. Good luck to anyone else out there going through what I am.
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Re: Coming off subutex day 2

Postby Zippy » Wed May 01, 2013 1:03 pm

Hi Subuser,
Welcome to Subsux, you are a brave person.

Good for you for wanting off the devil medication. You are not going to be happy for a couple of weeks and then you will start seeing improvment. Continure to read around the differet threads, people use various comfort meds and have varried symptoms.

Please post often so we can support you. You can do this.....every day is a day that you will never have to do again.
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Re: Coming off subutex day 2

Postby subuser » Wed May 01, 2013 1:13 pm

Thanks Zippy. The encouragement really helps. I am so scared about the next couple of days, especially because I have to still work a pretty physical job. I called in sick today but now feel I should have gone in. I will probably need those sick days later. How the fuck did I get myself into this mess??!??!?
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Re: Coming off subutex day 2

Postby Zippy » Wed May 01, 2013 1:43 pm

You got yourself into this the same way the rest of us did. We thought Subs was the mircle to save us from withdrawal. We (MYSELF) did not investigate and now we are paying the price. You are not alone.
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Re: Coming off subutex day 2

Postby Justjules13 » Thu May 02, 2013 4:52 am

Hi User..welcome!
How you doing? I'm on day 11...you still hanging in?
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Re: Coming off subutex day 2

Postby subuser » Thu May 02, 2013 8:28 am

HI Jules! Thanks for the check in! I am still hanging on. I took my last dose Monday at 5 in the morning and its now Thursday. So far, not too bad. Of course not great, but definitely manageable. I'm pretty sure the worst is to come but feeling pretty optimistic about it all at the moment. Luckily I have Clonidine and valium and have been taking healthy doses of immodium. Just trying to hang in there. How are you doing??? Day 11 huh? Can you tell me how you're feeling and what its been like for you?
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Re: Coming off subutex day 2

Postby syd » Thu May 02, 2013 11:01 am

Congrads on your jump.

Use the benzo's sparingly...like every other day, for sleep...not round the clock.
Sub wd's are a walk in the park, compared to benzo wd.
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Re: Coming off subutex day 2

Postby subuser » Thu May 02, 2013 11:54 am

Thanks syd. That is what I am most afraid of. WHen I went to the Dr. she told me she was only going to give me 5 of them and when I went to the pharmacy to pick it up I had 60!!!!! THe addict in me was thrilled but the part of me that wants to be completely clean was terrified. I took a healthy dose yesterday but not feeling like I really need it today. At least not yet. Day 3 and I even managed to drag myself to the local health food store for supplements. Its only down the street and I was sweating like a pig and was dead tired by the time i got back, but I am really proud of myself for doing it!
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Re: Coming off subutex day 2

Postby Justjules13 » Thu May 02, 2013 5:45 pm

I hate to tell you....but.....days 9-13 have ALWAYS been the worst for me. I think it's a "top of the hill" thing...you know? It gets much better after two weeks. Yesterday and today have been a little tough..restless, weepy, sore...but I drank alot tues...so it could be that! I gave up alcohol for opies many many moons ago....
You've got 5mg Valium? I don't think 60 is enough to get you dependent. Remember to save some for days 9-13... Lol.
Your dr must have had second thoughts after you left (or the pharm screwed up real bad..lol) and has faith your going to do this! I do too...it sucks,but it's doable!
Ok...another day in the bank!
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Re: Coming off subutex day 2

Postby subuser » Sat May 04, 2013 11:14 am

Day 5!!! Heeerrreee I gooooo!
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Re: Coming off subutex day 2

Postby subuser » Sat May 04, 2013 4:37 pm

As the day wears on I'm finding that I'm getting more and more uncomfortable. I'm freezing but its also super foggy outside. I'm extremely tired and lost a lot of the umph I had earlier. Feeling a little down, but nothing I can't handle. Everyday is a day I don't have to do this again, right?
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Re: Coming off subutex day 2

Postby subuser » Sat May 04, 2013 4:37 pm

As the day wears on I'm finding that I'm getting more and more uncomfortable. I'm freezing but its also super foggy outside. I'm extremely tired and lost a lot of the umph I had earlier. Feeling a little down, but nothing I can't handle. Everyday is a day I don't have to do this again, right?
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Re: Coming off subutex day 2

Postby Justjules13 » Sat May 04, 2013 7:18 pm

It comes in waves....just distract yourself when it feels the worst. Stupid videos of Walmart people on utube or porn..lol
My worst symptom is firey skin...but it's not that bad...not bad enough to make me use, that's or sure!
Day 13 is over...
Right! We never have to do this again!
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Re: Coming off subutex day 2

Postby subuser » Sat May 04, 2013 10:32 pm

Congrats Jules!!!!! So proud of you! So so proud of you! My day drastically improved and I am in very high spirits right now!
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Re: Coming off subutex day 2

Postby Justjules13 » Sun May 05, 2013 5:10 am

It's hard to remember the good times when you get a wave of shittyness..it's great your keeping a "log" of sorts here.
I woke up feeling great...despite not sleeping too well. I've got a long day of bike riding and hanging with friends today. Last Sunday I did the same and drank too much..I was wrecked for two days and it made my WD much worse. Today it's plain cokes!
I'm super proud of you too!!! You were brave to jump from a high dose...I wasted a lot of time tapering I think.
Hang in there...remember the shitty part will pass. You got one week today?!!!
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Re: Coming off subutex day 2

Postby Mrblazed » Sat May 25, 2013 1:06 pm

when it comes to the valium the amount she gave you isn't enough to become addicted but is enough to have rebound anxiety... Be carful rebound anxiety during a WD can make it come to halt quick as in a relapse from the panic of rebound anxiety thanks to benzos. The longer acting ones don't do it as bad as something like Xanax but it will still do it.
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