siezure chances

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siezure chances

Postby mabrown » Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:57 am

My daughter has been on adivan for 2 yrs. A mood disorder clinic kept upping her doses till she was at 8mg a day and sometimes 12 because she self medicated and combined with alcohol. A week and a half ago she had none left and couldnt get a hold of Dr so went ct. On the third day she couldnt get out of bed and was having night sweats, pain, insomnia and major panic, I took her to the hospital where we waited 6hrs and was told shes through the worst of it. my barely incoherent daughter convinced the Dr that she needed some adivan to sleep. He gave her 20-1mg tablets. We went to the drugstore where she had a major seizure, which i witnessed and thought she had died. The ambulance came and she woke up, went back to hospital where she was put on watch for 7hrs and finally given Valium and told to see her Dr. I now have her seeing an addiction specialist in an out patient clinic and they have given her 5mgs of Valium 8 tablets a day, plus a sleeping medication. She still is going through withdrawal and I know has a long way to go but my biggest fear is the seizure, does anyone know what the chances of this happening again are, while taking the vallium-no adivan. It was the scariest thing to see and I terrified it can happen again. Any help is much appreciated.
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Re: siezure chances

Postby CTCheryl » Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:42 am

Hi Ma,

First of all, I am very sorry you have to go through this and see this stuff.

Secondly, I would never take medical advice from detox forum. Please call your PCP and tell him/her your concerns right away.

Hang in there, this is a long road you are on.

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Re: siezure chances

Postby Special K » Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:34 pm

Hi Ma ~

I am sorry you and your daughter are going through this.

I am an addict who also has a siezure disorder, and I have experienced Grand-Mal seizures both during wd from both opiates and benzos, and also before my drug use ever started.

As for wether or not your daughter will have another seizure, I would think that if she follows the Dr.'s advice and takes the Valium as prescribed, AND the Dr. closely monitors her - the likelyhood of her suffering another seizure is small.

I am assuming that your daughter had a Grand-Mal seizure and lost concisousness - due to your statement that you "thought she had died". A Grand-Mal seizure is very scary those who witness it. My friends and family have told me how I would, without warning, just let out a "HUH! sounding shout, and then fall backwards, my eyes would roll in the back of my head, I would stop breathing, and my mouth would turn blue, while my muscles stiffened and my arms and legs flailed around. The first time my roomate witnessed me having a seizure, she tried to give me mouth-to-mouth, and called 911, also fearing I would die. When the EMT's arrived, the seizure had already stopped, and I had no idea what had happened, or why they were there, and asked them over and over during the ambulance ride to the hospital what happened.

My Dr. gave me posters to hang at home and work to educate anyone who is witness to a seizure what to do, and what to expect. The information on the posters really helped my co-workers and family become less fearful of the prospect of me having a siezure while in their presence. This is basically what the poster stated, I hope it helps you be less fearful:

During a Grand-Mal, Tonic-Clonic seizure, a person will lose conciousness, thier muscles will stiffen, and thier arms and legs will flail around. A seizure will usually end before EMT's can respond. This is what you can do to help the person during the seizure:

- Remain Calm

- Move objects from around the patients body that they my hit with thier head, or flailing arms and legs during the seizure.

- Do NOT put your fingers, or any other object, into the mouth of a person who is seizing. A person CAN NOT choke on or swallow their tongue during a seizure - this is an old wives tale, it is impossible.

- Once you have moved the objects away from the body of the person siezing, call 911 and remain with the patient. They will need to be assessed by EMT's, who will decide if the patient needs to be seen by a physician at the Emergency Room. A trip to the ER is unlikely, unless the patient suffered an injury as a result of the seizure - for example a head contusion incurred while the patient suddenly lost conciousness and hit their head on the ground.

- Most seizures usually don't last longer than 5 minutes, and will stop on thier own before the EMT's even arrive. Seizures are rarely fatal except in very rare conditions/circumstances.

- Once the seizure stops and the person regains conciousness, they will be confused and unaware of what happened, and why they are on the floor. Tell them that they appear to have had a seizure, the EMT's are on the way, and reassure them that they are O.K. The patient may become very upset because they have no memory of the seizure, and may be embarassed to find themelves on the floor and everyone else standing around them - looking down at them. Continue to reassure the patient that they are fine, and expect that you may have to tell them "you had a seizure" several times becomes the confusion can remain for a few hours.

- The very best thing you can do for a person who is having a seizure is remain calm and follow the instructions stated above. It is very scary to witness, and it appears to be much worse than it actually is.


Hope this helped calm your fears some. I think the most important thing is for your daughter to be closely monitored by her physician, and take her medications as prescribed.

I have sent you a PM as well, with some other things that may find helpful.

Best wishes to you and your daughter.

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Re: siezure chances

Postby cheeps » Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:42 pm

CTCheryl wrote:Hi Ma,

First of all, I am very sorry you have to go through this and see this stuff.

Secondly, I would never take medical advice from detox forum. Please call your PCP and tell him/her your concerns right away.

Hang in there, this is a long road you are on.

Cheryl



Ma....ditto that.

Also.....a detox center should know what to do. One like this.....

http://www.summerhousedetoxcenter.com/a ... stion.html
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Re: siezure chances

Postby Special K » Fri Oct 19, 2012 2:05 pm

cheeps wrote:
CTCheryl wrote:Hi Ma,

First of all, I am very sorry you have to go through this and see this stuff.

Secondly, I would never take medical advice from detox forum. Please call your PCP and tell him/her your concerns right away.

Hang in there, this is a long road you are on.

Cheryl



Ma....ditto that.

Also.....a detox center should know what to do. One like this.....

http://www.summerhousedetoxcenter.com/a ... stion.html


I agree as well - please do not settle just for what I, or anyone on a internet board has to say as far as medical advise .

I was merely trying to settle your fears of a prospective seizure from the view point of a recovering addict who has a seizure disorder and has had siezures both before my drug use started, and while withdrawling from benzos and opiates.

I, nor anyone else, can predict whether or not another seizure will happen. I just felt your fear from what you wrote, and wanted to share what I know from my personal experience, in hopes you will be less fearful of a seizure happening.

I apolgize if I was out of line. It was not my intention.

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Re: siezure chances

Postby Mrblazed » Thu Oct 25, 2012 6:47 pm

As far as siezures a long as she takes her med and doesn't tub out early that dose of diazepam should benplenty hogg to prevent siezures not wd though she will be hurting for a while ia allways hard to stop your DOC, which sounds like he uses benzos like me I need them but I also Kirk to take a bit extra and get drunk offf them. She needs help benzos are extemtlu safe as far as overdosing as log as not combined but take a huge toll on domeones personal life you can't hold a real relationship with anyone allways balcked out whch at those doses 8 to 16mga is plenty for a blackout I know first hand I was on ativan for a year just compared to oter benzos wasn't my cup
of tea. This is a detox fom though by a medico advice colum your daughter is verysick and needs tr helpnof a knowledgeable MD. It sound like the candy man he was swing isn't the right fit nonobe should be on doses that high of benzod doctors think if two kinda helpnand gourmiinda help
kore then 10 should do the job ( that's how benzos have allways been prescribed to me intill recntly) a good doc ttys o find a drug that works with as low a dose ad possable lower doses= less side effects. Find your daugter some real help all that I said is from my four tiby years of benzo use that I never was able to get addicted to took all m pills the frat week an would wait weeks till refills. Like
eveyone said she need the help of a real md but to answer as best as possable she "should" on the diazapam not have problems with siezures. Please get he some elp ad give her all your love and support she will need it also think about talking to her about getting off such a strong benzo as even diazapam she is just trading a addiction for another. There are alot of effect non benzo anxiety meds but in the end run what helped me most was learning to cope without meds... Wish you both the best of luck hope you get thus under control.
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