Has anyone used METHADONE to get off SUBOXONE??

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Has anyone used METHADONE to get off SUBOXONE??

Postby GoodVibrations » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:57 pm

I have heard of people using suboxone briefly to get off Methadone, but is it possible to use Methadone to get OFF suboxone for a short time?? Sounds like it may work, because the meth clinics have a short detox program lasting a couple months.
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Re: Has anyone used METHADONE to get off SUEBOXONE??

Postby emily » Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:27 am

HI GV
Methadone in my area is a nightmare...you have to go everyday to the clinic & they are only open from 5am-10am during the week & 6am-11am on weekends. Every time you go there is a urine test & they watch you drink the poison. My friends son was on methadone for a couple of years & switched to sub...that way he didn't have to go every day before work to get his poison. He is now tapering off the sub & is pretty low...2mgs. Life is GOOD when you are sober for a while. Methadone sucks more than suboxone in my mind. The same (or worse) feelings will be there even on a "short" methadone detox when it's time to stop...
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Re: Has anyone used METHADONE to get off SUBOXONE??

Postby CTCheryl » Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:05 am

What area?
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Postby Justjules13 » Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:08 am

Ya...I was kinda wondering that too? Sounds overly strict...I've never heard of daily urine tests and no "take homes".
Odd....?
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Re: Has anyone used METHADONE to get off SUBOXONE??

Postby CTCheryl » Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:27 am

I agree, but this is how it is in my area as well, (CT) that's why I was curious.
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Postby Justjules13 » Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:38 am

Daily urine tests and no take homes??? That's crazy...I thought I had it bad, having to go twice a month after over a decade on the stuff. Maybe they are trying to forse people on to sub? My clinics where in Ca and Texas.
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Postby CTCheryl » Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:45 am

You have to "earn" take homes here. The big hype being pushed here now is some shot you get once a month and it acts like sub where you don't get high and I think maybe you get sick too. Not sure, don't care....
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Postby wastedtime » Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:42 pm

They make implants that make you sick if you use.I think it called Naltrexone,maybe they have made a shot version of that.Kinda sounds like it.i have never seen a meth clinic.I had a friend on H in new Orleans who would never get the meth but her BF did.She said the wd's were worse than the H and she would rather just tough out the H wd's than mess with meth at all.Goldie
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Postby cheeps » Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:22 pm

GoodVibrations wrote:I have heard of people using suboxone briefly to get off Methadone, but is it possible to use Methadone to get OFF suboxone for a short time?? Sounds like it may work, because the meth clinics have a short detox program lasting a couple months.



And that is 3-5 weeks too long. :banghead: :banghead:
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Postby GoodVibrations » Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:04 pm

Cheeps, i see you were on methadone for about a decade. I would totally take your word for it even more than any DR. So, you think this would be a terrible idea, even it was for 2 weeks?
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Postby cheeps » Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:20 pm

Six of one...... :suicide2:


taper your sub....stay the fuck away from methadone.
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Postby GoodVibrations » Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:49 am

appreciate the honesty. and graphic photo. haha it really sends your message clearly. So ironic for a guy with a little cute tweety bird on his profile. lmao. Hey tough guys have soft sides more often then regular guys. Very very sensitive. Just mask it with machoness. Not saying you are. but hey, if the shoe fits. hahaha na man im just fuckin with ya. Thanks for the advice man
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Re: Has anyone used METHADONE to get off SUBOXONE??

Postby SoCal » Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:08 pm

thats a scary thought,,MD's were my doc,,the pill form cause they lasted longer ,,I know i could never take MD w/o screwin up!
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Re: Has anyone used METHADONE to get off SUBOXONE??

Postby Not a 12 stepper » Mon Oct 01, 2012 12:54 pm

No one that I know of has been able to make that idea work out for very long-



When someone likes opiates a little bit too much, then realize they're addicted, they ALWAYS want to try a different opiate to make detoxing "easier"...


I had the same ideas. I wanted to switch over from methadone to sub back in '07, cause everyone on the pro methadone board I used to post on, said it was easier to taper off of. Then I read some stories here, and realized it wasn't gonna be any easier.


Then I came up with another idea-

I'd fly to Thailand, catch a bus to the slums of Cambodia, where I'd switch over to China white for a month or 2, then go back to Thailand, and stay at a Buddhist Temple and detox with the monks, puking out the poison with help from their herbal brew (kratom).


But I finally came back to reality, and got used to the idea, that I was going to suffer, regardless of what detox plan I came up with.

Hell, I'd have probably died of an overdose in Cambodia by now, if I followed through with that idea :crazy:
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Re: Has anyone used METHADONE to get off SUBOXONE??

Postby Sub zero » Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:22 pm

You probably would'nt have liked that Buddhist monk detox camp. I read their spiel and it seems that their philosophy is that those who suffer the most (mehadone users) are made better and stronger by the experience. As for SubZero, I say "screw that!!!" ...I'd want to get off as easy and painlessly as possible.
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Re: Has anyone used METHADONE to get off SUBOXONE??

Postby Justjules13 » Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:29 pm

You know what they say Zero...those that have walked thru fire and forged stronger!
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Postby Sub zero » Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:01 pm

Justjules13 wrote:You know what they say Zero...those that have walked thru fire and forged stronger!


I guess that's why most everyone here tapers instead of cold turkey???
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Re: Has anyone used METHADONE to get off SUBOXONE??

Postby Justjules13 » Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:25 pm

You Bet!
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Re: Has anyone used METHADONE to get off SUBOXONE??

Postby Not a 12 stepper » Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:44 am

I did a forced methadone detox from 120mg many moons ago...

Just a short stay in the county jail quickly turned into the absolute worst experience of my life...


I was pleasantly surprised at how easy tapering off was in comparison-
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Re: Has anyone used METHADONE to get off SUBOXONE??

Postby Sub zero » Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:28 pm

Not a 12 stepper wrote:the absolute worst experience of my life...


An understatement!!! Unfortunately the English language doesn't have the words needed to describe what that must have been like. Makes me cringe just to think about it. I guess I didn't have it so bad doing 60 mgs CT in the confort of my own home.
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