mynameisDAN82 wrote:Personally, I experienced all of the above- minus the foot thing- plus my nipples began randomly lactating
cheeps wrote:But.....4 years of sub....you can fully recover from.
cheeps wrote:The good news is.....you are smart enough to use your search engine....and you kept going, using your gut, and you landed here.
I used methadone and pills most of my opiate career; I used sub for detox. Because of my long history with the meth....the sub, being a LAO, bit my ass. I've had opiate flashbacks...if there is such a thing.
But.....4 years of sub....you can fully recover from.
southerngirl wrote:The things I see regularly in my husband (16 mg/day for 10 years)
-Emotionally checked out - like, totally void (except for fear) He does an amazing job of acting upbeat and happy, but it is obvious it is an act. Flat Stanley
-He is very repetitive and uses the same responses over and over. Always the same phone conversation. Always the same catch phrases - often used in inappropriate situations. Broken record (which works well at work, not at home). Ten-Second-Tom
-Extreme hearing loss, ringing in his ears, an easy excuse for not listening. Eh? New hearing aids are helping some
-Pinpoint pupils, red eyes, squinting.
-NEVER makes eye contact
-Dry eyes - needs RX eye drops and can no longer wear contacts (eye infection went on for months that he didn't even realize) Cataract surgery/lens implants recently - still dry, red, watery eyes but now he can see. His vision changed very rapidly and then cataracts developed very quickly
-Drippy nose, gurgly sound when he breathes
-Constant thirst/diet soda addiction (caffeine boost). You NEVER see him without a drink, even in the car, on the lawn mower, out of the house, in the house, every single second of the day. Never drinks water or anything else
-Needs a Nic-Fix - Ex smoker/quit about seven years ago and still chews nicorette gum. constantly.(nicotine boost)
-Extreme sweet tooth (sugar boost) He craves white sugar. Like birthday cake, candy, cookies, etc all day long
-No taste for food - hamburger and french fries every. single. day. sometimes twice a day.
-Constant extreme headaches - for which he takes several advil, several times a day
-Can't sleep without excessive OTC sleeping pills (2-3x rec dosage - or more?)
-Bathroom issues - duh. Never a day without meds to help out
-Dental problems, like thousands of dollars worth and constantly needs repairs
-Slurred speech at times - likely after dosing, not sure? He sounds like he's got marbles in his mouth
-Irrational paranoia and fears, accompanied by fierce anger if you ask about it, so - don't ask about it.
-Inability to feel physical pain, or any other sensations. Didn't notice a third degree burn
-A little bit OCD about things - he's uncomfortable with any kind of change, mostly routines
-No interests or hobbies, and absolutely no friendships outside of work/home
-Cut off from the world. Other than weather and sports, he hasn't watched the news or had interest in local/world events. He never bothered to register to vote - too hard to follow and make decisions.
-Mr. Limpy has no life at all. He's dead, Jim. Luckily, this doesn't seem to bother him and I'm frankly glad not to deal with it. Mr Limpy leaves me alone and I suspect he has a layer of dust.
Of course, these are the observable things. I can't speak for what it FEELS like and it isn't discussed.
Hope that helps
EVH19781984 wrote:I dont want to sound like Mr defeat before i even try but i have been doing a lot of reading about others here on this forum that have been off sub for a good amount of time now and i am REALLY CONCERNED about the talk of always being super tired and having no motivation at all for months and months after the sub is actually past it half life and all the main WD's are over.
When i quit percs and oxy's i went through bad WD but after about 2 full weeks i was pretty much back to
regular again. I had taken those two opiates off and on for over 3 years and never really cleaned up the whole time.
Finally i had had enough and just stopped one day,went through the WD's and then got clean for about a year then
enter the suboxone period after briefly going back to percs! have been on the sub since!
should have just went through the perc WD again and not got on these!
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