Ready to get off the Suboxone train

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Ready to get off the Suboxone train

Postby Willis93 » Sun Jun 28, 2015 1:13 pm

First off, I'm very glad I found this website. Finally found people not afraid to tell the truth about this horrible drug. I got hooked on opiates when I was a caregiver for my wife who was a cancer patient. Oncologists prescribe a lot of medication to cancer patients. I was caregiver for 5 years, worked a physically demanding job at the same time, developed severe back pain during year 4 and began helping myself to my wife's dilaudid, morphine, and hydro codons. It was easy, start running low, call the doctor and go pick up a script or have Fed/Ex deliver them to the front door. That went on for about 6 months until the hospice nurse figured out what was going on. Went to my PP and was honest about what I was doing, referred to a back specialist, verified that surgery was necessary but I did not have time to go through all of that and they referred me to a PM clinic. Explained my situation to the PM doctor and she happily wrote out a script for dilaudid. I was on cloud nine, wow, my own script. Didn't take long to max out my tolerance and by week 3 of each month I would be close to, or out of, opiates. PM doctor would ask why my urine sample didn't have opiates in it and I would mumble some excuse. Finally got sick of the opiate treadmill and checked myself into a detox center where they prescribed suboxone. I have been taking 20mg/day for 2 1/2 years. After reading a lot of the posts here, I am wondering why my sub doc prescribed so much. The first 6 months on Subs weren't that bad. No cravings, I thought I felt normal. I guess I've reached the point where Subs have turned on me. I feel ok sometimes but most of the time I feel like a zombie. I don't really have emotions any more, I'm not excited by things that I used to like to do, and I have weird withdrawal feelings like it isn't even working anymore. I found a taper program that uses 2mg as the halfway point and I started it yesterday. I live alone now, and am looking for a support system and am hoping that this website will fit the bill. I don't really like going to meetings, or at least I haven't found one that I like. Just reading about other people's experiences and knowing that I'm not alone is a big help.
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Re: Ready to get off the Suboxone train

Postby cheeps » Sun Jun 28, 2015 1:54 pm

Willis....how many mgs did you take Wednesday? Thursday? Friday? Saturday? Today?


Welcome to SS....very sorry you have had to go thru all this......
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Re: Ready to get off the Suboxone train

Postby Willis93 » Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:11 pm

Hi Cheeps, I have been taking my normal 20 mg dose up until yesterday, (Sat.) when I dropped down to 12. I continue that dose for 5 days and then drop down to 8, 5 more days, drop to 4mg. 5 more days drop to 2 and then it looks like you start dropping by 25% after a longer duration of time. 60 days total is what they consider successful. From what I've read, it sounds like anything above 8mg is hardly needed. I wonder why my doc has me on such high a dose? I should have started a tapering program a long time ago. I'm worried about my ability to heal. I'm 57 years old and if my brain heals as slowly as the rest of my body it doesn't bode well. I'm just hoping I can return somewhat to what I was before opiates and suboxone. I never have moods anymore, no good moods, no bad moods, just nothing.
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Re: Ready to get off the Suboxone train

Postby amery2u » Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:17 pm

Hiya Willis,

Cheeps is the bomb-diggidy here. No moods? that was ME for 3 years. Became Flat Stanley.... Tis why I jumped. Not advisable, but done now. Your taper sounds right, but read around here. IDK. I did NOT taper. Wish I had. Oh well.....water under the bridge. When you finally DO jump / quit, you will have ALL THOSE emotions and moods and . . . yeah..that, come back. REWARDS!

Good luck;
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Re: Ready to get off the Suboxone train

Postby cheeps » Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:35 pm

Willis....let's try a change up. The ceiling for bupe is 8mgs.

This is what I'd like to see you consider.

next dose...

8mgs for 5 days
6 mgs for 5 days
4mgs for 5 days
3mgs for 5 days
2.5mgs for 7 days
2mgs and hold
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Re: Ready to get off the Suboxone train

Postby cheeps » Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:40 pm

Willis....it takes longer than 60 days to get off this stuff. The good news is....you are finally in the right place to do it.


At 2mgs, you will start to feel and come out of the flatness.
Once you get under 1mg, it gets kinda shitty....but...that depends on the person. We counsel going very slowly after that....and we have lots of ways to mitigate any withdrawal.....

But for now....let's get you to 2mgs.
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Re: Ready to get off the Suboxone train

Postby rc51guy » Tue Jun 30, 2015 11:25 am

Welcome Willis! Glad to hear your reayd to come off this crap. Stick with cheeps outline above and just keep going down. If you need to do it at your own pace then go for it. But I think it helps to have a "schedule". Any questions let us know!
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Re: Ready to get off the Suboxone train

Postby cheeps » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:23 pm

Hey Willis.....how's it going? Were you ever able to lower your sub dose? Man, I hope you doing ok?!
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Re: Ready to get off the Suboxone train

Postby Subblind » Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:24 pm

Welcome Willis...I too was fed 20 mgs a day...I'm still battling some major pain issues so I'm still taking the shit but I've been holding at@6 mgs a day.sorry your in the spot your in but you couldn't have found better people to help you through the walk off...(jumping sounds more extreme)good luck sir,hope you succeed...really do...
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